You can be assured that an unsolicited email that begins with a stirring declaration that the author honors your right to freely speak or associate will conclude with a list of reasons why you shouldn’t…
First and foremost I’d like to state that I respect your first amendment right to association and believe that your organization is a prime example of how effective our nation is protecting those rights. My questions are:
- “On what legitimate, scientific evidence do you base your claims that there are different variations of human beings or races?”
- “Would your organization recognize the citizenship of any soldier of the United States who is Black, Latino, Asian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, or associated with any other group of people who you believe are unworthy?”
- “Your organization states statistics that claim African Americans commit more felonies and imply that they are bad people. Do you understand that irrational, outrageous, and unintelligent claims such as yours could be made stating that a white Caucasian man from European descent systematically killed 10 million people, 6 million of which were Jewish. Or a that a white Caucasian man from European descent killed millions during the course of his political rule in Communist Russia(Joseph Stalin). Personally my family has been effected by genocide, but I do not believe that the race of those people responsible for such crimes against humanity had anything to do with their actions. A white, black, or green person does not commit crimes because of the color of their skin or the continent on which his ancestors inhabited.”
I personally am a Christian and have attend privatized Christian education from K-12th grade. I would like to thank your organization for holding such a position in modern times. I admire your determination, but above all racist groups such as yours inspire me to devote my life to liberty, justice, and equality. For if we do not love one another what do we have but hate and animosity. If groups such as yours did not exist there wouldn’t be much to remind the youth of America(which I am apart of) that there is still darkness and injustice in our great nation.
Matt. 22: 39: And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
Matt. 5: 44: But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
“Pick your enemies as carefully as your friends. A really good enemies’ list is often a sure sign of a courageous and moral person. The world is full of evil people and its important to stand up to evil.” -Alan Dershowitz
God Bless you and you’ll be in my prayers
This is a quality submission, one worthy of a thoughtful response. I get at least one email of this type per week, but most are of the “You’re a fat faggot in a fedora” variety. Last month, some guy with a thick British accent and a British country code called me at random and asked if I was “…Matt Parrott of the Council of Conservative Citizens?” After I confirmed, he shrieked “FUCK YOU!” and hung up his phone. GuessedWorker of MajorityRights.com is the only British guy I correspond with, so I’m forced to assume it was him. I had no idea he would react so emotionally to my differing with him on ontological matters.
If there were a county fair for anti-racist emails, this one here would be the blue-ribbon hog. It implies that my ethnic nationalism is a biblical sin, appeals to cornball patriotism, conflates it with the Holocaust, bogs me down in pseudo-scientific semantics, then caps it off with a quote from an outspoken Jewish Ethnic Nationalist. While he suggests that I’m damned and evil for my political position, he does offer to pray for me, with the hope that my politics will more closely align with God’s platform as it has been revealed to Anti-Racist Bob.
Here’s my rebuttal…
“On what legitimate, scientific evidence do you base your claims that there are different variations of human beings or races?”
The word “legitimate” is a subjective one, and I presume you acknowledge that there are at the very least superficial differences (such as skin color) between human population groups. I’m also going to presume you acknowledge that some of those differences are consequential, such as the increased risk of heart disease among a population group that is popularly defined as “Black”, the increased risk of Tay-Sachs disease among a population group that is popularly defined as “Ashkenazi Jewish”, and the increased risk of Type II Diabetes among a population group that is popularly defined as “Pima Indian”.
What I believe you’re getting at, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that you challenge the assertion that “race” is a valid way of clustering these human population groups. This is indeed somewhat arbitrary. For example, the “Black” race in Africa can potentially be subdivided into Congoid, Pygmoid, Bushman, and Nilotic “races”, all of which are pretty distinct from one another. One can walk from Moscow to New Delhi and won’t walk past a signpost that says “The White Race Ends Here”, though the Russian and Indian population groups are quite different.
This phenomenon isn’t unique to human population groups, though. The difference between “male” and “female” is pretty arbitrary, and it’s very tricky to nail down a precise definition. No definition will be 100% adequate, as there are individuals who are both male and female at the same time, individuals who aren’t really either, and all sorts of steps in between. Yet, the world goes on with separate male and female restrooms all the same. There are only a handful of genes separating a miniature pomeranian from a wolf, and there’s a perfect gradation of intermediate types between the two “breeds” of canine. Yet, I hope you wouldn’t allow your toddler to play with a wolf.
I believe this article in Scientific American, “Does Race Exist?”, parses it out relatively well, acknowledging that the colloquial definitions are subject to a certain degree of interpretation while confirming that the differences are indeed relevant in contemporary scientific research, with consequential differences relating to medical treatment and such. There isn’t a “Black gene”, for instance, but there are indeed Black people.
“Would your organization recognize the citizenship of any soldier of the United States who is Black, Latino, Asian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, or associated with any other group of people who you believe are unworthy?”
It’s not about being “worthy” or “unworthy”. I’m not a White Supremacist. I don’t believe White folks are superior to Black folks. I do believe, however, that I’m “unworthy” of being Chinese, for instance. I would not be Chinese even if I somehow ended up serving in the Chinese military. I don’t belong to the Chinese nationality, regardless of my actions, as a matter of identity. I’m simply not Chinese and never can be – no matter how hard I try or how admirably I serve the Chinese government. To be “Chinese” or “Jewish” is to be the member of an ethnicity, a large extended family with a shared genetic and cultural heritage. I believe that both the Chinese and the Jews have a natural right to assert and defend that identity, and to have their own nations that I intrinsically don’t belong to.
The sticky situation here is that the contemporary United States is indeed a multinational and multicultural regime without a common race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, tradition, heritage, or any other defining characteristic whatsoever. To answer your question as directly as possible, I believe that all those groups do indeed belong to this country of the United States as it exists right now. The Council of Conservative Citizens is an advocacy group for White Americans, and doesn’t officially advocate for the revocation of citizenship for any of those groups. Personally, not speaking for the CofCC, I strive to separate from this country into a separate and smaller “White America” that does share a common European ancestry, Christian tradition, and American way of life. This struggle is no different in character from what the Jews strove for when they desired to create a nation of Israel.
“Your organization states statistics that claim African Americans commit more felonies and imply that they are bad people…”
The statistics are firm on this matter, that Black Americans do indeed commit violent crimes about seven times the White American average. The majority of Black Americans are non-violent “good people”. Having a higher rate of aggressiveness as a people does not make them “bad people”, anyway. But it does matter when there are government policies to force my people to integrate with people who are dramatically more aggressive. It’s not appropriate. White people are not the least aggressive population on Earth, and East Asians are dramatically less aggressive than ourselves. If Chinese people objected to being forced to integrate with White Americans on the ground that we’re more aggressive then they would have a valid concern.
…”Do you understand that irrational, outrageous, and unintelligent claims such as yours could be made stating that a white Caucasian man from European descent systematically killed 10 million people, 6 million of which were Jewish. Or a that a white Caucasian man from European descent killed millions during the course of his political rule in Communist Russia(Joseph Stalin).”
I didn’t deny that White people have committed atrocities, unspeakable atrocities, in both wartime and peacetime, in organized groups and as individuals. The organization doesn’t deny this, either. There’s nothing irrational, outrageous, or unintelligent about claiming that White people can’t be trusted in a position of power over other people. We can’t. The historical record is very clear about that. We’re not uniquely evil or uniquely good, nor is any other population group. Jews are entirely in their right to demand a separate nation where they can be safe from European pogroms and they’re not irrational, outrageous, or unintelligent for doing so.
Every nationality deserves a nation and one nation ruling over another nation is always unfortunate and potentially dangerous.
…”Personally my family has been effected by genocide, but I do not believe that the race of those people responsible for such crimes against humanity had anything to do with their actions. A white, black, or green person does not commit crimes because of the color of their skin or the continent on which his ancestors inhabited.”
I’m sorry to hear that, but you don’t really have any right to imply that I’m in favor of genocide. If we want to be hyperbolic and histrionic, then I could assert that your refusal to allow my people to exist as a separate people is a slow but sure form of genocide. If we disallowed Jews from self-segregating, then we would be assuring their extinction as assuredly as if we used concentration camps to do so. We have a right to exist and none of your assumptions, accusations, or complaints can take that away from us. Nothing that happened historically can negate that.
I respect your first amendment right to free speech, and believe your position is a prime example of how effective our nation is in protecting that right. But you’re trying to assert that my people don’t really even exist as a valid people and that my people have no right to come together as a people. I know this subject is a sensitive one. I know you’ve been inculcated from childhood with a worldview that makes you think it’s okay to deny my people the basic human right to exist as a people. But it’s not. I’ll continue working as a tireless advocate for my family…my nuclear family, extended family, and ethnic family.
Thank you for asking these questions directly and offering me an opportunity to answer your challenges to our organization and what we stand for. While I doubt we’re going to come to any kind of true agreement on this subject, I do believe we both benefit from this dialogue. I don’t believe I’m superior to you. I don’t hate you. I don’t believe you have fewer natural rights than I do. I wish you the best and hope you have a nice day.
Was I too soft and conciliatory? Did I miss anything? I’m eager to refine my debating skills, so any feedback would be appreciated.
I’m glad that I didn’t get too harsh with him, as Anti-Racist Bob is actually Anti-Racist Bobby…
I would like to make my position clear that I do not believe in different kinds of human beings. There are different types of dogs, birds, trees etc. but there is only one type of human which is Homo sapien. I do not deny you or any group you associate with to not congregate, but I believe it is wrong that you if you wanted to make St. Louis a “white only” city you would exclude other minorities on the basis that they are not the same color as you. Why should you have the right to deny people you believe to be different to exist in the United States. During the time of the Antebellum South, Mississippi had a majority of African Americans, how can you deny their claim to being a member of this country. The same ideas of inequality you have is the same mindset that natives had towards Irish immigrants despite their white background. To be clear no one can say they are direct descendants of people how have been inhabiting America for thousands of years except Native Americas. To be honest Europeans invaded North America and established colonies. A few hundred years later America was created, which expanded from ocean to ocean. How can you say that the Chinese immigrants that constructed the transcontinental railroad do not deserve to call themselves American. Their right to preserve their ethnicity is the same as yours, but they cannot call for an inequality of this nation to expel all other “different” people just because they fell “threatened” by change. Mr. Parrott what does it mean to you to be an American? By the way I can definitely tell your highly educated on such matters and skilled in advocating for your organization. As a young high school student interested in law and politics I’d like to ask out of curiosity if you are an attorney?
We appear to have a relatively well-informed high school student who has yet to learn about paragraphs. I’m afraid this is getting a bit circular, as I already explained that I am not advocating for mass deportations of American citizens and am not trying to deny anybody (other than myself) the right to live under this particular regime.
He’s young, and he complimented me, so I’ll humor him with one more round…
I would like to make my position clear that I do not believe in different kinds of human beings. There are different types of dogs, birds, trees etc. but there is only one type of human which is Homo sapien.
In biological terms, your position is indefensible. Were we speaking of any other species than our own, we wouldn’t hesitate to acknowledge that they exist in different population groups that have unique attributes. In the philosophical spirit that I believe you’re getting at, I think it’s unfair to deny people their differences. For a Muslim, being Islamic is an integral part of who he is, and he regards himself as part of a larger Muslim community, all of whom share a set of traditions and values. For an Australian Aboriginal, having the blood and spirit of his ancestors is a cherished and important aspect of his identity.
You’re welcome to believe we’re all the same if you wish, but I believe humans come in an incredible variety, both biologically and culturally, both as individuals and as groups.
I do not deny you or any group you associate with to not congregate, but I believe it is wrong that you if you wanted to make St. Louis a “white only” city you would exclude other minorities on the basis that they are not the same color as you.
Which is the worse crime, exclusion or forced inclusion? Is it a crime to deny group X the right to interact with group Y? Is it a crime to force group Y to interact with group X against its will? You’re completely blind to the other side of the equation. Think of the previously safe, prosperous, and tightly-knit White American communities being forced to take in so many minorities that their streets become unsafe for their kids to play in, living conditions become more like the third world, and neighbors couldn’t talk to each other even if they wanted to – because they don’t even speak the same language.
All you seem to care about are the non-Whites and their rights and feelings. You think we White Americans should have the right to have our advocacy groups, just so long as those advocacy groups don’t take any steps to assure that our way of life and our communities remain intact.
Why should you have the right to deny people you believe to be different to exist in the United States.
I already stated directly that we White Americans will need to take the initiative in self-segregating. There are far too many non-White American citizens to simply deport or disenfranchise them all, even if that were moral. One America, your America, will go more the way of Brazil, gradually becoming a third world patchwork of vibrant ethnic ghettos. My America, White America, will retain an identity and way of life that’s in keeping with European and American founding traditions.
During the time of the Antebellum South, Mississippi had a majority of African Americans, how can you deny their claim to being a member of this country.
I didn’t. I revoked my claim to be a member of their country.
The same ideas of inequality you have is the same mindset that natives had towards Irish immigrants despite their white background.
The hostility toward the Irish immigrants was due to a fear that they wouldn’t integrate, that they would cluster together in ghettos and that their religion would be incompatible with America’s Protestant religious tradition. Just as time has shown that the Irish are perfectly capable of integrating into the White American national identity, time has shown that not even a trillion dollars in wealth redistribution, a web of racial quotas, and Affirmative Action “reverse discrimination” can bring either Blacks or Hispanics any closer to integrating than they were a century ago.
They were wrong about the Irish, but correct about the Hispanics and Blacks. What the Irish proved was that being discriminated against is not a real barrier to integration.
To be clear no one can say they are direct descendants of people how have been inhabiting America for thousands of years except Native Americas.
I never asserted that my ancestors have inhabited North America for thousands of years.
To be honest Europeans invaded North America and established colonies. A few hundred years later America was created, which expanded from ocean to ocean.
The Native Americans are a cautionary tale about why we White folks must come together and start thinking about our future. By the time Tecumseh began to successfully rally Amerindians as a people in defense of their race and their homeland, it was too late. I live a short drive from Tippecanoe, where Tecumseh lost the decisive battle that sealed the fate of his people. I consider Tecumseh an inspiration and have a deep admiration for this man who fully devoted his life – and gave his life – for his people.
I strive to live a life as valiant as his, but obviously for a different people and hopefully with a different outcome.
My ancestors defeated him and his people, and now the only Indians in Indiana are computer programmers from Bangalore. Life is about struggle, and nations that are distracted from the imperative of defending their homeland from unwelcome invaders will be replaced by those who aren’t so naive. This vision of yours, that of a harmonious rainbow nation, would be a whole lot more believable if the minorities weren’t reproducing at multiples of our rate, flooding in by the tens of millions, and openly gloating about becoming a powerful majority within the next couple decades.
How can you say that the Chinese immigrants that constructed the transcontinental railroad do not deserve to call themselves American.
They can call themselves whatever they want, as long as they don’t deny me and my people the right to determine our own sovereign destiny as a separate people from them.
Their right to preserve their ethnicity is the same as yours, but they cannot call for an inequality of this nation to expel all other “different” people just because they fell “threatened” by change.
I never threatened to “expel” them. I threatened to expel myself.
You’re accusing me of holding the position I do because I have some sort of confused and cowardly fear of “change”? I’ve told you my reasons. Please don’t throw around accusations.
Mr. Parrott what does it mean to you to be an American?
To be an American is to share the ancestry, heritage, and traditions of America’s founders. To be an American is to possess a birthright that my ancestors fought and died to hand down to me, with the understanding that I would preserve that birthright for future generations. The American spirit is one of boundless optimism, opportunism, individualism, discovery, innovation, creativity, and idealism.
This character didn’t just appear from scratch. It developed over thousands of years. The German tribal assemblies were the prototypes of our representative governments. The Greek and Roman Civilizations established our philosophical and legal foundations. The Magna Carta was one step in a long and gradual process of a people working toward perfecting their relationship with their government.
To be an American is to be a member of this specific extended ethnic family that, like a nuclear family, shares both a bond of blood and of shared memories. It’s not something that can be reduced to some patriotic cliches, because it’s deeper than that. It’s about more than merely saluting the flag, as we Americans developed our identities long before Betsy Ross stitched together a flag under which we could rally to that identity.
If that flag comes to stand for a globalist regime in which there’s no defining identity, then we may well have to stitch together a new one. If the word “American” has come to stand for some glitzy garbage about “equality” and “multiculturalism”, then we may need to call ourselves a new word. But make no mistake, we White Americans are the only ones for whom the original founding fathers fought for and we are the only ones capable of upholding that founding tradition.
Mr. Bobby, what does it mean to you to be an American?
By the way I can definitely tell your highly educated on such matters and skilled in advocating for your organization. As a young high school student interested in law and politics I’d like to ask out of curiosity if you are an attorney?
I’m flattered, but I dropped out of college in the first semester due to a combination of character defects, personal problems at the time, and a creeping sense that I didn’t belong there. I work as a business analyst, designing business processes and implementing those processes with custom reporting solutions and web applications.
I strongly advise against becoming an attorney, as there’s a glut of attorneys relative to demand. An increasing number of attorneys are being forced to go into unrelated fields, and even the ones who do manage to practice law are encumbered by massive student loan debts that are growing while their salaries are shrinking.
I’m not going to advise against going to college, but I do encourage you to be deeply skeptical about their promises and sharply focused on reaching specific goals with your education. If you’re interested in politics, then become an intern for a politician, volunteer for a campaign, and get in over your head with real people engaged in real political action in the real world. If you do decide to study law or political science, then your field experience BEFORE taking the classes will prove priceless in helping you walk away with a real education instead of mere indoctrination
I don’t know why I felt compelled to offer career counseling to an anti-racist. I probably should have persuaded him to get an MBA from University of Phoenix or immerse himself in Whiteness Studies.