Tim Wise has a new post today trying to talk his way out of his vicious glee at the thought of the hearts of conservative white people stopping.
This is his mentality — he thinks he can talk his way out of anything. His essay starts by insulting the intelligence of the white goyim:
I think I know what it feels like to be the person who writes the reading comprehension questions for those standardized tests we’re so fond of giving, if quite a bit less fond of taking.
After all, think about that person for a minute. He or she writes four or five paragraphs for inclusion on the PSAT or whatever, knowing full well that when asked questions about the passage they just read, millions of those who are taking the test will not get the point. It must be difficult to write, all the while aware that large numbers of those reading your work will utterly fail to comprehend it.
I’ve long known that the same kind of miscomprehension often greets my own writing. First, I focus on touchy subjects like race, and whenever we delve into such matter as this, there is a chance that emotional reading may take the place of reasoned study and analysis. In other words, we see what we want to see, based on wherever we are at the time of the reading, emotionally, and with regard to the issues at hand. Interestingly, the same phenomenon is true for writers, whose work product — or “art” on our better days — also reflects our emotional state at any given moment. In other words, sometimes the writer chooses language that is deliberately hyperbolic, provocative, or edgy, so as to force a reaction — to force an examination of the underlying message, no matter how discomfiting it may be for all involved — and doesn’t give much regard to how it may be received. Like the writer of the reading comprehension questions on the PSAT, such writers know ahead of time that many readers simply won’t get it.
No, Tim. I majored in literature in college. Your essay was in the form of teasing people who are condemned to death by execution. ”Tick tock” and all that, and it’s also a reference to heartbeats.
Wait! I was just about to refer to your essay to get the reference to hearts of White folks stopping It’s not on your site anymore! You took it out! But it is all over the Internet. The full version of your essay is all over the place, Tim! Here it is, which we’ll be sending to the colleges where you hope to lecture in the future:
We just have to be patient.
And wait for your hearts to stop beating.
And stop they will.
And for some of you, real damned soon truth be told.
Do you hear it?
Well, your essay is viral all right, and it’s not principally elderly White people who are talking about it. You are hoping the “white right” is dying off? Haha.
The younger generation which has lived through violent, stupid, loud “desegregated schools” where the teachers taught that white kids were guilty and black kids are saints, and “bank bailouts” that went to men with Germanic sounding names like “Blankfein” and “Rubin” and “Goldman Sachs” and 10% unemployment while people like you advocate more and more AND MORE IMMIGRATION TO STEAL OUR JOBS.
So you had to turn off comments, edit your original essay, and write an essay trying to claim that “we misinterpreted your words.” Oh boo hoo. How about every public White person who’s been accused of “racism.” He always tries to say, “you misinterpreted my words.” And people like you, Tim, are always ready to deny any wiggle room to anyone accused of “racism,” for their “slip of the tongue.”
There’s no ambiguity in “tick tock” and “wait for your hearts to stop, and stop they will.” No. This is celebrating the extinction of the White race.
But you miscalculate. The White kids you imagine are the kids from the 1980′s, when everyone had jobs and there was a chicken in every pot, and we weren’t alarmed about race-replacement. That was the last decade before political correctness; the last decade when we could take White civilization for granted. This is a very different era, Timothy, and White people will adjust accordingly.
In the history of Jews, we see how Jews always think of themselves as “the team.” When Jews see a non-Jew in a high position, they think, “A Jew could have had that position.”
We Whites are learning from you, Tim. We are losing our generous naivete, and we are beginning to think of ourselves as a “team” distinct from your “team,” which hates us and prays for our destruction.
You seem to think that Whites are frozen in the 1960′s “prosperity mentality,” and attitude of naive openness and generosity. You think that will never change.
You better hope that we are as mentally stagnant and maladaptive, as you imagine.
As for colleges where he is about to speak, send it to Sewanee: The National Episcopal University in the South, Sewanee, Tennessee, (majority White college) where he is scheduled to get himself paid a large monetary fee, paid for by the student activity fee and a special donor fund from the anti-racist Episcopal Church. Also send a letter to the editor of the local newspapers. With Tim Wise’s toxic and virulent anti-White hatred, Sewanee University should hire extra police and security to keep the peace at this University sponsored hate speech event.
The Sewanee Purple spurple@sewanee.edu
Nashville Tennessean local@tennessean.com
James Edwards jamesedwards@thepoliticalcesspool.org
Jimmy Owen Director of Annual Giving jpowen@sewanee.edu
Jett M. (Jay) Fisher, C’79 Vice President for University Relations jafisher@sewanee.edu
http://news.sewanee.edu/events/2010/11/09/author-and-educator-tim-wise-to-speak-at-sewanee
Author and educator Tim Wise to speak at Sewanee
7:00 pm on 9 Nov 2010Convocation Hall.
Tim Wise was recently named one of “25 Visionaries Who are Changing Your World” by Utne Reader. He is among the most prominent anti-racist writers and educators in the U.S. and has been called “one of the most brilliant, articulate and courageous critics of white privilege in the nation” by best-selling author and professor Michael Eric Dyson. Wise has spoken in 49 states, on more than 600 college campuses, and to community groups across the nation. He has trained teachers as well as corporate, government, media, entertainment, and military and law enforcement officials on methods for dismantling racism in their institutions.
Wise’s most recent book is Colorblind: The Rise of Post-Racial Politics and the Retreat from Racial Equity. He is the author of four other books exploring issues of race and affirmative action, including White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son; and Between Barack and a Hard Place: Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama. In addition, Wise has contributed essays to 25 books. He received the 2001 British Diversity Award for best feature essay on race issues.
Wise received the 2002 National Youth Advocacy Coalition’s Social Justice Impact Award in recognition of his contributions to the struggle for equity. Wise received his B.A. from Tulane University and anti-racism training from the People’s Institute for Survival and Beyond, both in New Orleans. He has served as adjunct faculty at the Smith College School of Social Work and as an advisor to the Fisk University Race Relations Institute. His talk is sponsored by the Diversity Coalition
You were doing great, until you went Jew-crazy. My understanding is that Tim Wise is not a Jew. (I read that his father is a Jew.) But the Jew-baiting would be equally dumb and vicious, in any case.
“In the history of Jews, we see how Jews always think of themselves as “the team.” When Jews see a non-Jew in a high position, they think, ‘A Jew could have had that position.’”
I’ve never heard Jews talk like that. As for the history, that’s bunk. Until a couple of generations ago, Jews were never permitted to hold high (and in many countries, such as Germany, even mid-level positions), unless they repudiated Judaism, and converted to Christianity.
“We Whites are learning from you, Tim. We are losing our generous naivete, and we are beginning to think of ourselves as a ‘team’ distinct from your ‘team,’ which hates us and prays for our destruction.”
More nonsense. I’ve never heard of Jews praying for gentiles’ destruction, unless it was in a wartime situation, and they were praying for God’s help against a particular enemy (e.g., Pharoah and the Egyptians).
Besides, Tim Wise doesn’t pray to God. He’s almost certainly a communist.
Nicholas Stix- “My understanding is Tim Wise is not a Jew”.
Tim Wise identifies himself as a Jew, Nicholas.
In an article by Mark Green at the Occidental Observer website, Tim Wise wrote in an email – “In this country, I have never been favored in anything because of my Jewishness, while, on the other hand, I was often marginalized as a Jew growing up, told by Christian assholes that I was going to hell.”
In a 2005 debate with Jared Taylor, Tim Wise said “I’m Jewish, on my father’s side, my people are Jewish.”
In an essay by Tim Wise(2002) at Metapedia: We[may] become increasingly seen as Israel Firsters, instead of people committed to principles of peace, justice, and fairness: those concepts that I learned in HEBREW SCHOOL were paramount to MY PEOPLE. What’s more, tolerating anti-semitism within the movement for justice in the Middle East is especially risky…”
From Tim Wise himself, Tim Wise is a Jew. He is a jew who makes his living by teaching hatred of Celtic and Germanic people to American university students. Nicholas Stix and Whiskey both deny the obvious, labeling Tim Wise as an debased Calvinist and a communist.
The smugness of this jerk is amazing. Yeah Timmy, your little Volkischer Beobachter moment was just like those people struggling to put out a coherent PSAT. And the country won’t just happen to become “half black and brown”, you’re not noting a natural phenomenon, you’re celebrating a policy of racist colonialism, and celebrating the goal of that policy: the dispossession, and ultimately the racial extermination, of whites. It shouldn’t be forgotten that when this was posted on the Daily Kos he had exactly 2 replies that objected: one from an idiot conservative who went into a typical we’re not racists whine, and one from a Lib who complained that going racial is bad because it only empowers the racists. The genocidal sentiment he expressed in his hate screed represents a common view among liberals. And get this overlooked little passage: “without hurting your precious feelings, or those of the so-called ‘greatest generation’ — a bunch whose white contingent was top-heavy with ethical miscreants who helped save the world from fascism only to return home and oppose the ending of it here, by doing nothing to lift a finger on behalf of the civil rights struggle.”
Phil, Wise is a liar. What a surprise!
He’s not a Jew. There’s no such thing as “I’m a Jew on my father’s side…” There are only two ways to be a Jew: Either your mother’s a Jew, or you convert. Whenever he identifies himself as a Jew, he’s committing fraud. A person can’t just call himself a Jew. He’s using Judaism, because he sees some sort of advantage in it. But it’s not even Judaism, because his references were not to Judaism, but to socialism. “Peace” plays no role within Judaism. Justice does, but not what he means by it. “Fairness,” likewise, would have nothing to do with his conception of it.
What Hebrew School would admit a gentile? Reformed probably, assuming Wise didn’t lie about it. Considering the other statements you quoted, I wouldn’t put it past him.
He must have thought he was being clever, calling himself a Jew, in a debate with Jared, since in his mind, Jared is a Nazi. So you have an unwittingly comical situation: A gentile misrepresenting himself as a Jew, and misrepresenting his opponent as a Nazi.
So, he’s a gentile who misrepresents himself as a Jew, a genocidal racist who misrepresents himself as an “anti-racist,” and he obsessively misrepresents whites and blacks, respectively. He’s a man of many masks, but he went too far, and the masks are now being ripped off.
Send it to corporations as well. He actually still gets paid to deliver his drivel, albeit a slightly toned down version, to “diversity” departments at companies. I’d love to see them stop hiring that moron.
The truth is, Wise assumes everyone thinks like he does. White people are not afraid of growing populations of Blacks, Indians, and Hispanics. I live in a subdivision that is at least 50% Indian people and we have a wonderful community. We have block parties. The Indian people embrace American culture. They dressed up in Halloween costumes and had a great time. They don’t come to our country and crap all over western culture. They keep their own culture, but do not try to replace ours. They are succeeding. Wise hates that. He likes minorities to be victims, not executives. He wants them to believe they can make it in the world by activism, rather than hard work. Well, his worst nightmares are coming true in the form of Black republicans like Cedra Crenshaw, Allen West, and Tim Scott. Most of us are ecstatic to see them succeed. Not Wise. He won’t be congratulating them anytime soon.
Please post your emails to the colleges where he is about to speak, along with responses. Please don’t tease us by saying that you will send without really doing it.
Here’s a babe who needs lots of attention from us. http://www.donnalamb.com/
Please post copies of your e-mails to the colleges, along with their replies. Warn them that his virulent and toxic hate speech should give them security concerns, thus increasing the cost of the event and drawing more attention to how dangerous he is. A nut-job may take his hate-filled rhetoric to heart and react violently toward campus Whites. Make sure the story becomes one of potential violence. That will get the Left really on the defensive.
We want him heard on campuses- White college students need racial awakening, and someone as offensive as Time Wise can do a better job than we can.
To Paradigm- “Well, his worst nightmares are coming true in the form of Black republicans like Cedra Crenshaw, Allen West, and Tim Scott.”
Until I hear a Black Conservative Republican demanding an end to anti-White Affirmative Action, followed by introducing a Bill that demands all blacks who unequally benefited from discrimination in their favor start apologizing to Whites, I won’t believe the conservative charade. Black conservatives benefit from the Unearned Diversity Privilege more than any other blacks, so don’t expect them to really work for “change” that helps White Humanity.
One day, Tim Wise will pen a rage-filled diatribe against Israel, rejoicing that soon there’ll be more Arabs than Jews there. Tick, tock.
And then you’ll wake up from the dream.
If someone wanted to promote cultural suicide, self-hatred and self-harm to young, impressionable and idealistic white kids then it would work best if the person doing it looked white.
So someone from a hostile ethnic group who wanted to spread self-harm among white children might consider marrying someone white and then making sure to bring up the offspring so that they strongly culturally identifed with the hostile ethnicity. The offspring could then be used to spread self-harm among white children.
By the same token if the same type of person wanted to spread the same self-harming ideas to the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese then it would be a lot easier if they looked more that way. If they didn’t look that way they might consider marrying somone from those countries and then bringing their kids up to identify with their original group so that the children could be used as weapons against the Japanese, Korean and Chinese nations.
Obviously this is a very unlikely scenario and only plausible at all if there was a group that wanted to destroy all the nations of the earth other than theirs. And if there was a group like that they’d have probably written it down somewhere at some point.
“Well, his worst nightmares are coming true in the form of Black republicans like Cedra Crenshaw, Allen West, and Tim Scott.”
His worst nightmare is white people acting as a racial bloc.
In terms of white dispossession and genocide, Black Republicans, whatever their good personal qualities, are just a marketing inconvenience.
They don’t actually believe their propaganda. They use it because they know white people will believe it.
> In terms of white dispossession and genocide, Black Republicans, whatever their good personal qualities, are just a marketing inconvenience.
That may be the case right now. But, who ever heard of a conservative Black think tank like Project 21 two decades ago? They have people like Deneen Borelli going out to speak at universities and corporations, just like Wise does. Borelli says that Black people are coming up to her in droves and saying, “I’d like to hear about your platform because the Democrats have done nothing in 40 years.” The reality is that the Democrats are the ones who are a bunch of angry White men. It’ll take time, but what you’ll see happen is two blocs of Black people forming: One will be the haves and will vote conservatively and the other will continue to follow idiots like Wise. It has already happened with the Latinos – look at Marco Rubio.
If nothing else, DO NOT allow Wise to convince you that White people are going to disappear. Enough minorities will wake up to the uselessness of liberal think to keep the Huffington Post crowd in the shadows. It will become harder and harder for the Tim Wises of the world to convince people that a party that just elected a very diverse group of people is out to get minorities. Wise is already on the ropes. If you read his book “Barack and a Hard Place…” you’ll see that he is getting desperate. He pushes the concept of “acceptable Black people,” by which he means that White conservatives only like Black people they find to be “like Whites” (Beyonce, Oprah, etc.). This is the ultimate form of life support for his dying narrative. He knows that Whites and Blacks are getting along and he cannot allow that to happen. So he invents this concept that cannot be disproved. The problem is that it also cannot be proven.
Don’t worry guys. Things are bad economically, yes. But, don’t allow a fool like Tim Wise to convince you that your race is going to be living like his current audience is. That just isn’t going to happen.
Sorry Tim, your hand was shown. The “far right” really does love it when the socialist left lets slip. Just makes our day. We don’t need to hate. The left does more than enough all by its self. Tim, your true colours have been shown, no turning back now. You have drawn the battle lines and now we can only wait for the logical conclusion of your meddling with the heart of America. Which of course will be war. Thanks Tim.
Wise said:
“And by then you will have gone all in as a white nationalist movement — hell you’ve all but done that now — thus guaranteeing that the folks of color, and even a decent size minority of us white folks will be able to crush you, election after election, from the Presidency on down to the 8th grade student council.”
So, no, he doesn’t think future whites will be as sheeplike as they are now. He’s saying that there won’t be enough of us to matter, and he’s right – at least if you assume that we stick to the democratic system.
Personally, I’m over democracy.
You are right about Tim Wise and Jews in general. Fortunately, there are expcetions to the distinctly Jewish problem of usery and malice aforethought, but the tribe of Ephriam is patently insane if it thinks its healthy to continue to cater and accomodate to 1/12th of the tribe of Israel which has still not repented of murdering the King (and would do so again today if given 1/2 the chaqnce). Absolutely spot on. I am 34 years old. If there is anything good about the obvious demographic tsunami which Mr. Wise speaks of, at least my own children, as descendents of the tribe of Ephriam, will not be as ignorant as the preceeding 3 or 4 generations of the dangers of those murderous, scheming hypocrites and liars of the contemporary judaic bloodline pose to an otherwise benevolent future.
p.s. I am also LDS and have been concerned about the metastasizing influence “multiculturalism” has and continues to have on the formerly United States and to LDS values and cultures. (and the role MTV and the mass media, bankers, hypocritical lawyers and judges in the jewdicial system, etc. ad nauseum -all marxists behind the scenes). God bless the old “fair and delightsome” USA! There are waaaay too many satelitte dishes tuned into the Jew tube in Utah. It is extremely disconcerting.
Hi Scooter
I’m a recent convert to LDS in northern England.
It’s disgusting the way the Missionaries here target Chinese and other non-Whites for conversion.
Also, a pretty LDS YSA girl who has a calling organising YSA stake activities is being courted by a black Angolan and the Church doesn’t forbid it.
I used to live in South Africa and find miscegenation offensive.
I hope we can one day ensure fair and delightsome folk don’t interbreed with those God warns us against by having given them a skin of blackness.
Until a couple of generations ago, Jews were never permitted to hold high (and in many countries, such as Germany, even mid-level positions), unless they repudiated Judaism, and converted to Christianity.
Simply not true.
Even before “a couple of generations ago,” Jews occupied prominent niches, often with greater privileges than the vast majority of gentiles who were largely serfs and peasants.
Read The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State by Benjamin Ginsberg.
Here is a review of the book: http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/deadlyenemy.htm
Hi, Dermot. I’m a long-time inactive Mormon, myself, living in South Africa. Just to update you on the situation here, a friend called me just this morning from Johannesburg. She, like me, is an inactive member. Last night she was invited to dinner with some active Mormon friends, and the Bishop was invited, too. She was shocked to learn that the black Ugandan woman with him was his wife!
The LDS church is definitely not the church I remember from my youth. Of course, Tim Wise knows that it never was. Yet I keep having this false memory, or hallucination, about a time when the black skin was the curse of Cain, and a disqualification for priesthood; when couples could get married in church with a traditional ceremony including Mendelssohn’s wedding march (not allowed any more, because if you allow Western traditional marriages, you have to allow African traditions, too – let’s not go there); it seems so clear, it could almost be real.
re: Your final paragraph: it’s a mystery to me why any White person would want to miscegenate with Africans, in particular. Let’s face it, they’re clearly enough marked as “other”, and downright ugly. Why would anybody want his children and descendants in perpetuity to look like that? But this abomination is spreading here in SA, too. I have another false memory of a time when it was considered a disgrace, and the ultimate degradation. Alas, dementia…
Really? White South Africans, after all that, are now miscegenating?
If so, I suspect because they feel defeated, and it’s an act of surrender. This is why optimism is so important. I think this period of time is just a test of our mettle, and those who miscegenate, fail. Those who maintain faith and optimism and endure to the end, will have generations of White children who will “make it to the other side,” to a future where miscegenation is again looked upon as a disgrace and the ultimate degradation.
Coldequation,
I agree — counting votes isn’t going to matter if Whites decide we’ve had enough of multicult. A few tens of millions of us will be PLENTY.
Can Tim Wise be sure that in a contracting economy and a bankrupt US government, non-whites will still breed as enthusiastically as they do now? The red tide bloom of colored people is because there is a cornucopia of nutrients slathered on them from welfare and affirmative action corporate and government jobs. What happens when that’s gone, when the whole country (with a few exceptions) becomes like Detroit?
The fall of the US empire will force Whites in the USA to stop identifying with the US gov’t (Uncle Sugar) and his debt candy. The only reason so many Whites are loyal is for the pension. It’s all about the pension.
Generous gov’t pensions is what keeps cops and soldiers in line, keeping us in line. It’s what motivates them to follow orders and throw White advocates in GULAGs.
I think what James Howard Kunstler calls “The Long Emergency” is going to be a deus ex machina that throws the White race a lifeline, or perhaps, the deus ex machina that defunds the boot that is on our neck.
Dermot,
You should show tell the YSA girl that interracial marriage is discouraged by the church:
http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=1f4fa41f6cc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&hideNav=1&contentLocale=0
“We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” (“Marriage and Divorce,” in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).
Sadly, yes, many White South Africans seem to have lost all self-respect. Miscegenation is not general, probably less widespread than in America, but to me it’s so abhorrent that I probably notice it more than most. It’s been 16 years since the fall of civilization, so the young people have had the benefit of a liberal education in the state schools. One of the reasons why the last of my daughters finally bit the bullet and emigrated. Her daughter was showing signs of assimilating. Just in her speech, but there were worrying signs, like her being taught in school (at age 9) how to fit a condom.
The best of us, the ones with skills, have emigrated. There are still many good people here, people without advanced education, or who are too old to emigrate, or who have family responsibilities (elderly parents) that tie them to SA. But increasingly, the Whites are becoming low-class. Once, standards were a matter of pride. There were things that a White person just didn’t do. But standards only work if they’re generally accepted. If the rules are ignored by most of the players, and the referee doesn’t enforce them, then you have to face the fact that it’s not the same game any more. So standards of public behaviour are sinking to the lowest common denominator.
I hope you’re right, and that we will eventually emerge stronger. It won’t be in my lifetime. But I have 14 (and counting) grandchildren, and every one of them is a precious chip in a genetic kaleidoscope that every once in a while throws up a Leonardo or a Newton or a Pythagoras. Not to mention the most beautiful women in the world. Our challenge is to teach them to value and preserve that heritage.
Mindweapon
I won’t say anything to the YSA girl in York because the Mormon youth here in Northern England listen to hiphop and would just say that they can marry who they want. Her entire peer group would back her. Also, miscegenation is only discouraged in the same way drinking Red Bull is discouraged. I went to a YSA dance here and it was just hiphop playing. They have “street dancing” led by the Angolan as a YSA activity. Being South African, they would pretty much consider me to be a serious racist if I spoke out and I can’t afford getting my card marked yet, as I’ll need the Bishop and the Stake President to bat for me in an unrelated matter. What I’m doing is going to a different YSA Institute where this is not as apparent right now.
AnalogMan
My father is from SA and I had the good fortune to live there for nine years at High School and University. I left straight away after Uni. I know one or two guys from my high school and uni classes who have married Coloureds. To me, that is the ultimate disgrace and the end of their line. It’s a perversion akin to bestiality. I find it even worse when it’s a White girl of course. If only we could have the Immorality Act again. Sterkte oom
I agree 100% with the first commenter: We need to forward Tim Wise’s hate filled diatribe to jafisher@sewanee.edu and ask that this hate filled bigot not be allowed to spew it’s anti-White venom.
We all know what the response would be had he penned his garbage against Blacks or other minorities.
Take heart, all you who worry about the miscegenation in the contemporary Mormon church. Wilford Woodruff warned that 50% of the church would be without the Holy Spirit in the very last days (last chapter of the WW priesthood manual). Methinks that in some cases, even miscegenating Bishops will fit into this category. Hip Hop as a whole is nothing more than a siren song for white boys and girls to defile their anscestry and piss on the sacrifices of their forebearers while it encourages a devolution to that bordering on a primitive (primate) lifestyle.
Of course, there will be those who will say, “things change”. Of course, these are the same folks who want to believe that God is “changeable” by the whimsical fancies of man. Truth is eternal. I like that someone referenced the quote above:
“We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” (“Marriage and Divorce,” in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).
I also like how someone said above,
“Those who maintain faith and optimism and endure to the end, will have generations of White children who will “make it to the other side,” to a future where miscegenation is again looked upon as a disgrace and the ultimate degradation.”
Joseph Smith advocated separatism. When some ignorant, Obama worshipping church member tries to label my beliefs as “racist” I simply state that I am no more, nor less, racist than Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, or any of the modern day prophets (Pres. Kimball).
And I am definitely NOT interested in surrending my race. It is an integral, important aspect of one’s identity given as a gift from Heavenly Father. He created race, after all. Anyone who deliberately promotes race mixing is messing with the order and variety which Heavenly Father blessed this world with. Anytime another baby mulatto is added to the world’s human population, its one more success the devil has had with tampering with the proper order of the Universe.
*sigh* These are very evil times in which we live. And not getting any better anytime soon…
Great post Scooter. The time is coming when Saints will have to fall on their sword and just express what the Holy Spirit is saying, come what may.
Dermot — that’s fine that this is not the time for you to fall on your sword. I understand. Keep a low profile, and be ready to take a stand when the time is right. Hip hop is not LDS, it’s the opposite of everything LDS stands for — promiscuity, drug use, alcohol use, miscegenation. The time will come when you can stand and say this and you will have members behind you.
I could smell the stink of this creep a mile away.
Nice post.
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Great article, mindweapon! And I enjoyed your others too. I’m glad to see that someone is unafraid to speak the Truth. Also many good posts here.
But (forgive me) I must disagree with much of Scooter’s position. He’s in outer space somewhere. In my opinion, he’s barking up the wrong tree. ( Have I stumbled on a Mormon site?) With all respect to everyone’s religious views, our problems will only be solved by intelligence and reason, not by looney religious mythology. Reason is the answer, not religion. Mormonism served as an effective barrier to miscenenagion for a while, but now it has been crumbling since the Mormons caved to pressure and agreed to accept blacks. It served its purpose, but now that’s over.
I don’t want to get into this religious thing further and offend devout people. Mainly, I wanted to compliment the good sense and fearlessness shown here otherwise. Keep it up. I wish you all well.
Scooter/Mindweapon/AnalogMan
Thanks for the great advice.
When I’m finished reading all my Scriptures and Jesus The Christ, I will seek out the Wilford Woodruff Priesthood Manual.
After having read 2 Nephi 5:21, I struggle to see how people can misunderstand the message, but it’s also important to know that our position was backed by Prophets Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and Wilford Woodruff, and as recently as the time of Spencer Kimball’s Presidency.
I need to study as much as I can of Scripture and Church History so that I can testify strongly when the time comes for us to stand up for the true LDS doctrine.
We will endure to the end and one day reach the Celestial Kingdom as fair and delightsome families :-)
Now that tim wise has ” come out of the closet” in respect to his abject hatred of all things white, this commie jew has painted a target on him self,but i hope no one makes use of that target, lets send those emails to the schools hes scheduled to speak at,let him become an problem to those schools, lets make sure he doesn’t get hired again to spread his anti White vomit all over our youth ! let his life go to shit!
Factualist:
Yep, looks like a Mormon site. The title “Fair and delightsome” is a clue to the initiated, and I knew Matt Parrott is a Mormon, and it appears Mindweapon is, too, as well as a significant number of readers. It’s gotten pretty explicit in this thread. Is anybody here not a Mormon?
It reminds me of a short SF story I read many years ago called Let’s Go to Golgotha. A far future time travel agency offers tours to the great moments in history. Tourists are warned to blend in with the locals and not make themselves conspicuous. The protagonist goes to the crucifixion and screams “crucify him” along with the crowd. Only after it’s all over does he notice that all the locals are cowering in their homes; the entire crowd was time tourists.
I agree with Factualist. Depending, of course, on what your intentions are. If what you want is a forum for Mormons to discuss racial issues, then make it explicit. Say so. If you want to attract a wider readership, doctrinal arguments won’t convince them. Again, maybe you should warn them up front. Either way, I like the site. Keep it up.
AnalogMan,
I’m not a Mormon, and I have no intention at present of converting, but I like much of the Mormon ethos and mythos, and the character of White folks that the LDS Church produces.
You guys might be interested in this site:
http://ldsliberty.org/
I listened to one of their podcasts, and it’s pretty clear that they’re “Tea Partiers”, although they didn’t use that term. Of note, the front page of the site currently links to an article titled I Refuse to Hate Muslims and a podcast titled Interview with an ex-Muslim. It’s certainly an interesting group of guys with White names running the site.
Murphy:
Thanks for the link. I had a look at one of the articles
http://ldsliberty.org/the-coming-apostasy-of-latter-day-conservatives/
Interesting take. The official position of the church changes from time to time, so that positions that once were doctrine become heresy. Conservatives may find themselves subject to excommunication in future. One commenter asked about the “seed of Cain”, and received a horrified denial. Even the “latter-day conservatives” are not that conservative.
Years ago, when I dropped out of the LDS church, it was because I rejected the mythos, but retained the ethos. I have always considered the Mormons “my people”. But I’m afraid the church is leaving me behind.
AnalogMan,
I noticed that the commenter had a Maori name, so it’s not totally surprising that he would rush to police any anti-Negro sentiments. He probably converted for access to White girls himself, but I digress. It’s telling that none of the other (presumably White) commenters piled on the original questioner, which is heartening. But the presence of one vocal non-White did have the effect of shutting down what otherwise might have been a reasoned discussion on race and White identity.
Analogman/Murphy/Factualist,
This site, and my site http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com are about opening up a new front in this struggle in which we are engaged, and that is a religious front.
I believe that ignoring this front is a big reason we haven’t been making progress. We grew up as “secular cool cats” and were convinced we could just reason with the world. Until we realized that most of the world doesn’t operate on reason.
Many modern people will have a reflexive negative reaction to religious people and religious discourse. I used to have this same reaction. But I came to suspect that this reflexive negative reaction is something that was implanted in us by the mass media to neutralize us. Religion is powerful mojo, dude. You may not be interested in religion, but religion is interested in you.
Look how “fanatic” became a pejorative. Why? Because fanatics are “dangerous.” Oooh. Dangerous to whom, or what? The Puritans were “religious fanatics,” and they founded a civilization out of the wilderness, AND committed regicide in England.
I avoid talk of violence and won’t permit it in the comments, but I certainly want to cultivate fanaticism. I want to reclaim the term “fanatic” as a good thing! Think about it — the Jews teach us that “fanaticism” is bad. What more do you need to know? I came up with a pretty simple formula – identify everything the Jews try to condition us to think and do, and think and do THE OPPOSITE. Mind Weaponization was developed as a film negative opposite of the Jews designing us to be a compliant herd of sheeple. I reverse engineered the Jewish plan, as best as I perceived it, and designed the exact opposite plan. That’s MW.
Read about Mind Weaponization at my site, http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com
Basically my idea is that we Europeans could always rely on hot lead and cold steel, like Conan the Barbarian. But Muslims and Jews, who experienced more military defeat than we did, developed “mind weapons” like Taqqiyah, Chutzpah, Crypsis, Asabiyah and Jihad. And now they are using these mind weapons to defeat us.
It’s an arms race. The Semitics are outgunning us for now. We need to develop Mind Weapons to neutralize their advantage.
Religious institutions are “mind weapons development factories” and “mind weapon armies.” They might not be perfect, but it’s what we got. I think we should boldly go there and see what we can do. If we are petulant and refuse to engage religion, then we can be beautiful losers. That’s all.
Lastly, if any religion tells you to shut down your intellect, I urge you to ignore that particular instruction, but smile and pretend to go along. Your intellect is your mind weapon. Hone it to the max. It’s like a Leatherman tool — good for all jobs.
http://www.wvwnews.net/printer.php?id=9470
EAU: Stop Tim Wise From Speaking at Sewanee, TN
Posted on: 2010-11-07 13:05:45
http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=9470
Send correspondence to: jafisher@sewanee.edu,jpowen@sewanee.edu,
spurple@sewanee.edu,local@tennessean.com,newsroom@newschannel5.com
To whom it may concern;
It is our understanding on the 9th of November, Sewanee will host Mr. Tim Wise to speak to your students regarding “racism.”
Please be advised that Mr. Wise is well known for his blatant bigotry against persons of European extraction. In spite of his credentials, denials (and ethnicity) Mr. Wise is not an ‘anti racist.’ Mr. Wise is an anti-white activist, but he disguises it in order to further what amounts to a Marxist based degeneration of European Americans in favor of a multicultural socialist Utopia; an activity we understand that also happens to pay quite well.
His caustic and mean spirited diatribes are well known and normally follow course with a screed he penned (here) regarding the recent Republican election victory and white American voters:
“We just have to be patient.
And wait for your hearts to stop beating.
And stop they will.
And for some of you, real damned soon truth be told.”
While Mr. Wise has since claimed that he is only referring to what he calls the “white right”, the fact of the matter is he is likely including all of our mothers, fathers, sons and daughters in his hateful declarations whose view points diverge from his own. Moreover, following Mr. Wise’s sick logic it should also be acceptable to wish the hearts of those on the “non-white left” to stop beating as well.
In order to maintain the integrity of the University of the South’s student body and your reputation, we strongly and publicly recommend that you cancel Mr. Wise’s appearance.
sincerely;
Mr. Drago Rendl
Mr Frank Roman
Mr John Young
Board of Directors, European Americans United
mindweapon:
I see. I remember, in his Occidental Dissent days, Matt Parrott suggested that it would be productive to work through existing organizations to spread our ideas, and mentioned Mormons as fertile ground. I thought at the time he was being overly optimistic, since the tide in the LDS church is flowing strongly in the opposite direction. But I see his point, that most Mormons are still closer to us, ideologically, than others.
Still, it might be a good idea to be explicit. I think the Mormons who are racially aware already frequent racialist blogs. Maybe some of them feel a bit guilty about it; maybe they think “the Brethren” would disapprove, that their beliefs are inconsistent with their professed religion. They need validation. Go on, do it! Change the name of this site to “The Mormon Racist”!*
Factualist was very gracious. Others are not quite as gracious. Here’s a comment from Amren on this article -
79 — browser wrote at 10:35 AM on November 8:
I went to that original site, Fair & Delightsome, and while I enjoyed the article itself, I found the comments section to be populated by spaced-out crazies; cultists who are living in an imaginary world of their own, a fantasy world. Truly disturbing! They are even further detatched from reality than Tim Wise is. And THAT’S saying a lot!
As someone here always says, “God help us!” Indeed.
That’s us he’s talking about. As Robbie Burns said (more or less)
Wud that some power the giftie gie us
To see ourselves as others see us.
* If you’re worried about copyright infringement on the registered trade mark “Mormon”, don’t be. I won’t give them the benefit of a link, but if you want to see an example of the filth that the LDS church tolerates in its name, have a look at a site that calls itself the Mormon worker. I don’t know if it still exists, but it was part of the leftist mob that intimidated hotels in Washington DC into cancelling the 2010 Amren conference.
I replied to the above comment at Amren as follows:
Hi, Browser. I was probably the most active commenter on that thread. I’m always willing to learn from my betters, so perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me exactly what I said that was so “detached from reality”.
Some of the commenters commented from a religious perspective. They are Mormons. Not your religion, but their own sincerely held beliefs. So, when you say “God help us”, exactly which God are you invoking, and what makes Him superior to their God? Oh, yours is rooted in reality, and theirs is not? Anybody who doesn’t share your views must be demented? Sounds a lot like Tim Wise.
By their fruits ye shall know them. You don’t even have to be religious to see the wisdom of that maxim. So, I invite you to travel to Provo, Utah, and see their fruits. See how their communities stack up against yours. But don’t plan to stay – they like their communities just as they are.
I agree with mindweapon, look at the things the Culture of Critique destroyed in mainstream White society and then work with others to preserve or rebuild those institutions and ways of life.
I also fail to see anything atheist or pagan WN have built which is as fruitful as the LDS communities of the 19th and 20th Centuries.
WPWW
Thank you for posting all, I have enjoyed your comments. My additional thoughts I want to add after reading through:
Regarding the events prior to the Second Coming (prophesies about the day today, as in right NOW):
D&C 63: 33.
33 I have sworn in my wrath, and decreed wars upon the face of the earth, and the wicked shall slay the wicked, and fear shall come upon every man;
D&C 88: 91.
91 And all things shall be in acommotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
~I propose that God is an unchanging God and what was true in 1830 (year that the LDS church was formally organized) is true in 2010 or 2000 BC~
~I propose that race mixing is generally as heinous today as it was when God first formed his creations~
~Those who encourage or condone miscegenation who are leaders of men or as the heads of a family are either complicit in the Devil’s works or are blissfully ignorant of the Devil’s mischief and mayhem they cause~ (usually the former)
~”Woe unto those who call wicked good and good wicked”~
~The fruits of my Mormon Pioneer forebearers were undeniably GOOD, Just and joyful, by the failed whimsical contemporary notions of “equality” (really just another variation on the theme behind the Devil’s plan as laid out in Moses), my beloved Mormon ancestors (and indeed all true Christians) would be derided and rejected as “racist”, “homophobic”, “cult members”, etc. etc.~
~Either way, the wickedest generation ever is the one now currently ensconced in the highest levels of government, academia, corporate leadership, etc. as nauseum (reference numerous quotes by Pres. Packer concerning the degree of iniquity NOW existent, hint: worse than Sodom and Gomorrah)~
~Realizing the foregoing, I am somewhat bothered by the wickedness of my parent’s and grandparent’s generations and what they have caused to transpire on the earth in my day, BUT I AM NOT PERPLEXED, because I know the basics of WHAT (evil vs. good and by their fruits ye shall know them), WHEN (the battle between light and dark is eternal and started even before we were born into this corrupt world), HOW (Heavenly Father’s plan) WHY (Men are that they might have joy)~
~Let us Repent and Prepare to meet our Maker, today, right now. “If ye are prepared ye shall not fear”~
Forgot to add this in the context of why I included this particular scripture (see below):
D&C 63: 33.
33 I have sworn in my wrath, and decreed wars upon the face of the earth, and the wicked shall slay the wicked (my personal belief (not speaking for the church as an authority) is that Race mixers of either “stripe” destroy their link to the past, present and future: indeed their very identity which is their soul), and fear shall come upon every man;
What we are witnessing, in the case of miscegenation, is the fulfillment of prophesy.
“The wicked slaying the wicked”
Probably the most beautiful thing I have to enjoy everyday is looking into the stunningly (blue) eyes of my innocent daughter and thinking about the centuries of effort and struggle which was laid up towards her opportunity at life as well as what the future holds for her.
…you’d better believe that she will be warned and warned again of the dangers which race mixing poses to her soul and eternal progress.
Why don’t more fathers love their “european” daughters enough to find the courage to speak the unfetterred truth to them about the dangers of miscegenetion, drugs, hip hip, alcohol, etc. ?? This is a deep mystery to me which I will never fully understand…methinks selfishness plays the biggest part.
Scooter
Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us.
The testimony of the actions of the Handcart Pioneers particularly, but also the entire history of the early persecuted restored Church is what convinced me that it all had to be true, then I prayed and the Sister Missionaries confirmed I had a testimony in my heart from the Holy Spirit.
I hope to endure to the end, and serve with my White LDS brothers and sisters to build Zion/the Jew Free White Ethnostate.
Time Wise compliments Sewanee students for not asking “challenging questions”
Sewanee costs White parents $46,000 per year. (The Diversity all get free ride scholarships in effort to increase Sewanee’s much needed Diversity.)
For that $46,000 x four years, White parents can be assured that their White children are learning to:
1. Never ask a challenging question when encountering a University sponsored anti White hatemonger on campus with a question such as, “What faith do you have in the blacks such that if we rid society of White privilege and social inequality by lowering ourselves down to their level that they will not keep pulling us down even further?”
2. Never even think to challenge anti White hatred, because it is now the normal, accepted, and expected mainstream attitude on college campuses and in any corporation or institution that hosts Diversity speakers and hires Officers of Institutional Diversity and Inclusion.
“As it turns out, about 400 people came to my talk at Sewanee (also known as the University of the South) — an incredibly conservative campus — and none caused trouble or even asked a challenging question.
http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/talking-loud-and-saying-nothing/
In that case, Sewanee should no longer be allowed the proud reputation as “conservative.” It now should be called “extremely liberal and dangerously radical.”
Maybe the $46,000 is money well spent. White college students will graduate from Sewanee knowing how to keep their mouths shut and will therefore not be targeted for career oppression and marginalization by the Diversity Enforcers and the new, rising Multicultural Elite who embrace and demand their own unearned Diversity Privilege while punishing high achieving and meritorious Whites.
Students who speak up and ask the “challenging questions” will be targeted as “potentially dangerous extremists who need watching, and certainly are still holding onto unacknowledged and outdated biases, and possibly are real racists who retain a shameful nostalgia for the ‘innocence and purity’ of Jim Crow segregation.”
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Excellent post. Us whites are waking up and a new identity will be grown from within by us all. We should stand united now. Never shall we stand undivided not now and never in the future.
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oh Nicholas Stix … I ran across his site some time ago before I knew he was a Jew or even who he was..while searching for information on Tim Wise. He has a post about him, Noel Ignatiev and some anti white Jewish broad. He did the same thing as here – denying that Tim is a Jew. He called Tim a Nazi etc.. See .. Nicholas Stix is part of the Gates of Vienna [Fnordman] Zionist propaganda network.. of ‘intellectuals’ [ when aren't the most troublesome of Jews 'intellectuals' - think NY 'Intellectuals' of the 60's that spawned our present day Neocons]? Besides his blatant tribal affiliation – why does he think that non-Jews are suppose to follow the same rules do as to who is a Jew? Their crappy religions rules of the mother doesn’t matter to me one iota. He has Jewish blood running through his veins and that’s exactly why he’s doing what he’s doing. Stix would be one of those Jews who would attempt to claim that Marx [for instance] isn’t really a Jew — because well you know he wasn’t a ‘practicing’ Jew… even though that matters not a damn in reality.
When I posted on his site [again I didn't know of him from Jack] — I knew immediately that he was a Jew. So I commented and to his credit he did at least post them. I linked him to Tim’s site where he was having a discussion/argument with a fellow Jew about Israel – along with some other link showing him to consider himself Jewish .. self identifies as a Jew etc.. pointing out the fact there here’s a man who considers himself an ethnic Jew who is making a career on the anti-racist [anti-white] circuit .. going around attacking White “Privilege” and White America.. pumping this crap into young minds , hiding his Jewish Identity and yet this guy Stix ignores all of this because of some archaic Judaic law? He retorted with something along the lines of Who are you ? Jeffrey MacDonald? Stix was referring to Kevin MacDonald of course..
See these Gates of Vienna uber Zionists are not pro White .. they are pro Jew period full stop.
I remember some known sperg once posted on a forum I frequented that “You can’t be pro white without being anti-nigger” …. I disagreed immediately in my mind upon reading it because logically you can easily be pro white and be completely neutral toward blacks .. since they have no power and pose no real threat to us outside the power that Jews and their white marxist lackeys foist upon them while at the same time eviscerating whites.
Some time later .. that line came back into my mind … and I thought about it..
I’m now convinced that you cannot be pro-White without being anti-Jew because Jews [religiously or culturally] are inherently anti-White. The only way a Jew wouldn’t be anti-White was if they never knew they were Jews and I’m not certain that it still wouldn’t come out in different ways.. promoting some type of leftism or perversity..
I’ve tried to ‘see beyond’ Jews role in things.. I’ve tried to mark it off as simple leftism permeating their culture or their religion [some Jew said Judaism is Communism] but I’ve come to the conclusion that Whites are their mortal enemy. Whether it is that we are just their main obstacle to power or if there is something much much deeper is what I’m now trying to figure out. I’m leaning toward something much deeper, because power in and of itself can be had without trampling over us and attempting to wipe out our very existence.
I’ve never been very religious, wasn’t raised in a religious environment — we were cultural Christians (if even that) .. but 10 years or so ago I finally read the New Testament and some other books of the bible [this was before I even knew what a Jew was - I knew nothing about them] and some years later [when whatever it was lead me into being interested in them] I began researching them , their religion, their beliefs , their history , their ways, their [as Zundel eloquently put it] “voracious ethnocentrism” — their obsession with their race and bloodlines , their high rates of endogamy, [their Kohen line goes back 1000 generations] … I honest to God think that these people might literally be a demon-seed line.
There is no other excuse for their way of being and their actions throughout history. The Khazar theory that they are just a bunch of Turkic Asiatic bandits who ran trade throughout that area centuries ago and later converted to Judaism so as to not lose money from Muslims or Christians just doesn’t cut it. It’s just not enough.
They have no integrity or honor. They operate on an entirely different moral code. They have no guilt and no shame. They are neurotic and sociopathic. They are never relenting agitators. If there isn’t a problem they will create one. They thrive on chaos. They have no peace within them. They have no markings of Holiness .. Godliness. No other people on this planet come close to lacking so many good qualities while possessing so many bad ones. There is something very strange about these people and it has been recognized for centuries.
I’ve read about their belief that they are indeed very different from us ‘goy’. That they possess an entirely different soul. A higher soul [of course]. That the amount of difference between the animals and us non-Jews is the amount of difference between us and them and of them and God. That their Hebrew language is an alphanumerical code and that when Jews [blood Jews only - not converts] pray certain prayers in Hebrew that they are having sex with God and literally create us gentiles. I’m not joking. This isn’t fringe belief .. not the part about the different souls and their supremacy over us anyway. It’s fundamental.
If you want a crash course without having to research for years to get the meat of the matter .. just google “What Do Jews Mean When We Say Goy? Tag, You’re It!”. If you get impatient — skip to around 25 mins in.. but I suggest you listen to all of it. Yeah she’s a mystic Jew.. but mysticism is where you find deep truths in any religion. It’s why they call it occult.
As for Jews being involved in our causes … this must be followed [and even this isn't guaranteed but it sure won't hurt]. It’s American-centric – but you get the picture…
“Jews who align themselves with organizations or publications that explicitly promote the interests of European-Americans should be willing to acknowledge the role of the organized Jewish community in the dispossession of European America. They should also acknowledge that the policies of the organized Jewish community at the present time are definitely opposed to the interests of European Americans….
Moreover, when pro-European-American groups feel it judicious to be silent about the role of the organized Jewish community in our current malaise, this must be seen as an expression of Jewish power. Much of our task on behalf of European-American civilization and our people is the promotion of historical understanding. Many Jews will inevitably find an honest discussion of the history of European abdication threatening because of the prominent role of Jews revealed by any objective account of that history. …
Even worse, it prevents these organizations from making explicit attempts to oppose the very real power that the organized Jewish community and other strongly identified Jews continue to exert in a wide range of areas in opposition to the interests of European-Americans. Again, the best role for Jews in these movements is to be vocal critics of the Jewish community and its role in the dispossession of European-Americans. But the unfortunate reality is that, just like mainstream politicians forced to never mention the power of the Israel Lobby, these pro-European-American groups end up ignoring the 800-lb gorilla in their midst.” — Kevin MacDonald
Anyway.. yeah Stixx is a Jew. He writes some stuff for VDARE now.
Watcher,
you should post at mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com it is a more active site.
agreed about Stix and G of V. they are not us, that’s for sure.
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He is a sociopath.